MM2Values vs Supreme Values: Why the Two Lists Disagree (and Which I’d Trust)
TL;DR, bestie
MM2Values and Supreme Values agree more than the drama suggests. When I compared 377 items both lists price on 3 November 2026 (NZDT), the median gap was under 6%, and 31% of items were identical. The big gaps (more than 25%) are mostly cheap, low-demand items under 50 value, where nobody trades enough to settle a price. The gaps that actually matter are on event items, like the Emberscythe (300 vs 375). They disagree because they update on different days, use different methods, and Supreme refuses to price some items (untradables, award-only, unreleased). My verdict: use both, trust the lower number for anything new, and trust demand over either number.
🗓️ Last updated: 3 November 2026
Scam check
“My list says it’s worth more” is the oldest trick in MM2 trading. Scammers screenshot whichever list flatters their item, or a list that’s months old. Open both lists yourself on the day you trade, and never accept a value screenshot as proof.
Every MM2 trade server has the same argument at least once an hour: “That’s not what Supreme says.” “Supreme is outdated, check MM2Values.” I got tired of the vibes-based version of this debate, so I put the two lists side by side, counted the gaps and looked at why they happen. Here’s what I found, and which list I’d lean on.
The short version: they mostly agree
Out of 377 items that both lists put a number on:
| How far apart the lists are | Share of items |
|---|---|
| Exactly the same | 31% |
| Under 8% apart | 27% |
| 8-25% apart | 21% |
| More than 25% apart | 20% |
So almost 6 in 10 items are within 8% of each other, and the median gap is about 5.6%. That’s closer than two used-car websites pricing the same car.
The catch: the 20% with big gaps aren’t random. They’re mostly items worth under 50, with lower demand (around 1.4 out of 5 on average, versus 1.8 for the rest). When almost nobody trades something, two lists will guess differently. That’s not a scandal, it’s just thin data.
Where they match exactly
The expensive, high-demand stuff often lines up to the digit. On 3 November:
| Item | MM2Values | Supreme |
|---|---|---|
| Chroma Travelers Gun | 140K | 140K |
| Chroma Evergun | 47K | 47K |
| Chroma Evergreen | 33K | 33K |
| Chroma Bauble | 29K | 29K |
| Chroma Raygun | 13K | 13K |
| Chroma Emberscythe | 10K | 10K |
My take: when big chromas match exactly, it tells you the market is busy enough that both teams see the same trades. That’s when a value list is most trustworthy.
Where they disagree (the ones that matter)
These are the gaps I’d actually think about before trading, because people really trade these items:
| Item | MM2Values | Supreme | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Emberscythe | 300 | 375 | Supreme about 25% higher |
| Emberbow | 325 | 375 | Supreme about 15% higher |
| Chroma Embersickle | 1.1K | 1.3K | Supreme about 18% higher |
| Sweater Knife | 75 | 60 | MM2Values 25% higher |
| Chroma Mortal / Immortal | 1.8K | 1.6K | MM2Values about 12% higher |
| Mortal / Immortal | 140 | 150 | Supreme about 7% higher |
| Embersickle | 80 | 85 | Supreme about 6% higher |
| Candy | 90 | 80 | MM2Values about 12% higher |
See the pattern? Most of the big ones are Halloween 2026 items. They’re new, supply is still growing while the event runs, and the two teams are reading a moving market on different days. Supreme also shows a range on some of these. When I checked Supreme directly, it listed the Emberscythe and Emberbow at 375 with a range of 325-400. MM2Values’ 300 and 325 sit inside or near the bottom of that range. So the lists are less far apart than the headline numbers look.
Why the two lists disagree
1. They update on different days. MM2Values rebuilt its list on 2 November, and Supreme’s last rebuild I could see was 1 November. During an event, a day is a long time. Halloween 2026 in MM2 runs until Mon 16 Nov: 10am PT / 1pm ET / 6pm GMT / 5am AEDT (Tue 17 Nov) / 7am NZDT (Tue 17 Nov), so event items will keep wobbling until then.
2. Supreme refuses to price some items. Supreme doesn’t value untradable items, award-only items (like leaderboard trophies) or unreleased items. MM2Values sometimes does. That’s why you’ll see a number on one list and a blank or “Priceless” on the other. The funniest example: Nik’s Scythe shows as “Priceless” on Supreme and 250M on MM2Values. Neither of those is a trade price you’ll ever see.
3. Different methods. Supreme gives ranges and stability labels, and MM2Values gives a single number with a demand score. A single number always looks more precise than it really is.
4. Rounding on cheap items. When an item is worth 20, a jump to 25 is a 25% “gap”. On a 140K chroma, the same 5 points is a rounding error. Percentages make cheap items look chaotic.
Which list I’d trust (my honest take)
Hot take: neither list is “right”, and asking which one is right is the wrong question. Here’s how I actually use them:
- For high-value chromas and ancients: both, and they usually agree. If they don’t, wait a day before trading.
- For event items (Ember set, Candy, Sweater Knife): I trust the lower number. Event items tend to fall while supply grows, so the lower list is often just a day ahead of the market. Overpaying by 25% for an Emberscythe that might drift down next week is how people lose value.
- For cheap items under 50: honestly, don’t sweat it. Trade them as adds, not centerpieces.
- Over both lists: demand. A 400-value item nobody wants is worth less than a 300-value item everyone asks for. Both lists show demand. Read it.
The receipts back this up: the items with the biggest gaps are the ones with the lowest demand. Low demand means fewer trades, which means fuzzier prices. High demand means both lists converge.
How to use both lists in a real trade
- Open both lists on the day. Not a screenshot, not last week.
- Note both numbers. If they match, you’re done.
- If they differ, use the range. Anything inside both numbers is a fair trade.
- Check demand. If it’s low, lean toward the lower value.
- Ask for the other side’s math. A fair trader won’t mind.
My MM2 value list puts both lists side by side for the main items, and the MM2 trading guide covers fair offers in more depth. For the Halloween set specifically, see my Emberscythe value page.
Kiko’s take: The MM2Values vs Supreme beef is mostly fake drama. They agree on most items, match exactly on the big chromas and only really split on fresh event items and cheap stuff nobody trades. I use both, take the lower number on anything from Halloween 2026 and let demand break the tie. Treat value lists like weather apps: two forecasts that agree means bring sunglasses, two that disagree means bring a jacket and don’t make big plans. It’s giving dial-up era “refresh and hope” energy, but with receipts.
FAQ
Is Supreme Values or MM2Values more accurate?
Neither is consistently more accurate. They match on most items, and the median gap is under 6%. For event items I’d go with the lower of the two.
Why does Supreme not have a value for some items?
Supreme doesn’t price untradable, award-only or unreleased items. A blank on Supreme usually means “not tradable”, not “worthless”.
Why is the Emberscythe different on each list?
It’s a Halloween 2026 item, so its price is still moving. MM2Values had it at 300 and Supreme at 375 (range 325-400) when I checked.
How often do the lists update?
Both rebuild every few days, faster during events. Always check the date shown on the list.
Sources
Last checked: 3 November 2026 (NZDT). Image credits: YouTube – Christofer_official; YouTube – KLNEP; YouTube – Colbe. Everything else MM2 is on the MM2 hub.
kikomii is a fan site and isn’t affiliated with Roblox or Nikilis.
